In this candid, wide-ranging conversation, neuropharmacologist and founder of Beyond Consulting, Stephanie Karzon Abrams, joins Kim Dudine to explore the realities of building businesses at the intersection of psychedelics, integrative medicine, and healing. Together, they discuss what it means to bring heart and strategy into retreat centers, clinics, and conscious brands—without losing sight of the sacred. Topics Covered: Bridging science and spirit in business The role of creativity and vision in entrepreneurship Starting lean vs. scaling too fast Branding and marketing in sacred spaces Sliding scale models, access, and funding solutions (e.g., Thank You Life) Hiring and team curation for healing-centered businesses Why “the business is sacred” From the power of clear vision to the necessity of pivoting, from navigating sliding scale care to maintaining brand integrity, this talk offers a grounded yet visionary roadmap for entrepreneurs and healers alike. You'll hear about team dynamics, financial sustainability, and the challenges of marketing medicine that came from the earth—but now lives inside spreadsheets. From the power of clear vision to the necessity of pivoting, from navigating sliding scale care to maintaining brand integrity, this talk offers a grounded yet visionary roadmap for entrepreneurs and healers alike. You'll hear about team dynamics, financial sustainability, and the challenges of marketing medicine that came from the earth—but now lives inside spreadsheets. Whether you're a retreat facilitator, psychedelic entrepreneur, or simply curious about the future of healing, this is a must-watch conversation about building with integrity, love, and clarity of purpose.